I see that Apple's Mac OpenGL mailing list is no more. Not too surprising, as OpenGL is now deprecated, but it will be a long time before I can move to Metal. For reasons that we need not get into,

Many thanks for starting this group, and being so responsive.

I have just created a ‘carbon’ subgroup. Go forth and populate it! :) —Jens

Thanks! Joined.

Hello, I've just joined on Ann's recommendation to the Carbon-dev list - thanks, Ann. And thanks to Jens for making this place. It would be awesome to still have somewhere to ask Carbon questions.

By request I’ve created two new subgroups, carbon and jxa. —Jens

I vote for having a separate carbon sub-group. There may not be many of us, but the latest discussion shows there's still interest in carbon, and it's great to have a specific place we can go to for

On the other hand, it's easier to fand something when everything is relevant and without unrelated topics. If there are more than a dozen people, maybe we should have a separate carbon topic. igor

I'm not sure how far down this hole you'll want to go but here's a relatively complete list of mailing lists ... and yes, I'd agree with simpler names and potentially combining some of the groups.

Some of Apple’s lists have odd names that are quite hard to figure out without grokking a lot of history. e.g. the apple-cdsa list. I’d vote for list names as generic as possible. So audio,

Regarding mirroring the structure: Apple has a "QuickTime-API" list, which lately has had a fair amount of discussion of AV Foundation. Maybe just add a "video" list?

I've been on that list for a bit now and from what I can see, discussions cover a pretty wide range. It is a specialty topic and I think the audience would largely be the same for the various possible

Sure, that sounds like a great idea, especially as I occasionally do audio coding myself. What about higher level APIs like AVFoundation? Do you think those should be on-topic for this list too, or

Would you mind creating something for Core Audio and Core MIDI? Maybe something akin to coreaudio-api@... Thanks, -Luther

They’re run by the Swift open-source project, and they’re pretty high-priority as they’re the main way that people communicate, including the developers of Swift. Whereas lists.apple.com has

It does seem weird that they would cull the xcode-users group alone. I can only imagine that they’re waiting to get back from WWDC before pulling the plug out of that whole rusty server in the

On the end of this January, Apple mailing lists halted. So we had contact with Apple people. They did not understand or make action to recover MLs. They did not understand what happened. It took about

Those lists seem to be run by Apple - are they (especially swift-users) not also threatened by the mailing-list cull? I’m confused about what is happening. As far as I know, the only list whose

Several groups for the Swift language already exist: https://swift.org/community/#mailing-lists —Jens

Can we have a Swift group? Jeremy --